Sunday, September 6, 2009
What is Really Scary
Remember kids this not an indoctrination but like good future G.O.P members never admit to any thing even if you get caught doing the same thing your yelling about.
GOP electeds: Greer's cries of 'lies' & 'indoctrination' were fairposted
by ScottMaxwell on Sep 5, 2009 8:32:20 AM
On the news this morning Geer has changed his tune about speech ,talks about Obama trying to give lesson plans to teachers.
Mrs Bush giving her blessing.
Today's column revealed that Florida GOP leader Jim Greer -- the same man who has been all over national TV claiming that President Obama was trying to "indoctrinate" children and screaming that politicians have no business going into schools without talking to parents first -- has himself spent time in schools talking about politics ... without talking to parents first.
His visits certainly weren't scandalous. One was a career day, where Greer talked about what he did as the top GOP leader in the state.
One parent recalled her son talking about the Hillary Clinton jokes Greer told during his visit.
But you know what?
The parent didn't throw a hissyfit, scream "Indoctrination!" -- or threaten to pull her son out of school for the day ... even though she's a Democrat.
She simply told her son to remember that there are always two sides to every story. She also wanted her son to be exposed to different ideas. What a novel concept.
Anyway, Greer has been roundly criticized for his accusations that the president was going to "lie" and "indoctrinate" ... before he even knew what Obama was actually going to say. Even mainstream conservatives -- including the Wall Street Journal and talk-show host Joe Scarborough -- have decried Greer's antics.
(Scarborough just called them "insane.")
And Scarborough had the same question I did:
Are there any mainstream, sensible Republicans left in Florida who are willing to call Greer out on his hyperbolic rhetoric?
So I decided to check, running Greer's statement by four high-profile Republicans.
None responded with criticism for anyone other than Obama.
House Speaker Designate Dean Cannon and Orange County GOP leader Lew Oliver defended Greer's comments.
And congressman John Mica and Charlie Crist didn't respond at all.
For Charlie Crist this normal or he can't remember he signed it.
(Mica's silence may have been intentional.
Charlie's probably waiting for a poll to tell him how he feels.)
You can read Greer's full statement -- titled "Greer Condemns Obama's Attempt to Indoctrinate Students" -- and the reactions from Cannon and Oliver below.
And you can read the full column here.
Greer Condemns Obama’s Attempt to Indoctrinate Students
Tallahassee – Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer today released the following statement condemning President Obama’s use of taxpayer dollars to indoctrinate America’s children to his socialist agenda.
“As the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama’s socialist ideology.
The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power.
“While I support educating our children to respect both the office of the American President and the value of community service, I do not support using our children as tools to spread liberal propaganda.
The address scheduled for September 8, 2009, does not allow for healthy debate on the President’s agenda, but rather obligates the youngest children in our public school system to agree with our President’s initiatives or be ostracized by their teachers and classmates.
“Public schools can’t teach children to speak out in support of the sanctity of human life or traditional marriage. President Obama and the Democrats wouldn’t dream of allowing prayer in school. Christmas Parties are now Holiday Parties.
G.O.P seem to have narrow view of sanacity of human life.
What about the vets who have lost their life in a war based on lies?
If this is what they call prayer in schools could see why.
But, the Democrats have no problem going against the majority of American people and usurping the rights of parents by sending Pied Piper Obama into the American classroom.
Should students watch President Obama’s back-to-school speech on Tuesday?
But Jim Greer has no issue with members of G.O.P doing it.
The Democrats have clearly lost the battle to maintain control of the message this summer, so now that school is back in session, President Obama has turned to American’s children to spread his liberal lies, indoctrinating American’s youngest children before they have a chance to decide for themselves.”
VIEWS ON THE STATEMENT
DEAN CANNON: "... here's my summary view.
The speech itself is not what I hear people are most concerned about--it’s the federal government-produced study guides and the less than subtle invitation from the Secretary of Education.
People are worried about the all-encompassing, expanding federal government that seems to be creeping into every part of our lives--now even reaching into our elementary schools with “suggested” discussion points for the President’s speech.
My mom worked her whole career in the public school system, and I'm pretty sure that Florida teachers can lead their own discussion without the help of Washington."
"I have not read the details of what has been proposed but if it is true that the president has asked to have a policy speech specially shown to school kids, that is actually scary.
Additionally, had a republican president asked to do so on such issues as education reform, tax policy, the war, oil drilling, etc.
The screaming would reverberate to the moon and back.
The only statements by political officials that should be distributed through schools are noncontoversial public service announcements.
Never policy advocacy. So yes generally I agree. It's a little scary."
Yes never policy. What is Character first & who developed it ?
Character first, Bill Gothard
That's more than little scary.
Distributed through schools are noncontoversial public service announcements.
Character first is through out the school system all over the U.S.
And with the teaching and prey is controversial.
Lets look a little further.
Huckabee "long-time admirer" of "cult" evangelist Bill Gothard
Sarah Palin, faith-based mayor
State Treasurer David Petersen
Florida child welfare chief Jerry Regier
President Pushes Ahead With Religion Funding
It would seem there was a President pushing character first.
Its even our leagal system.
According to Gothard’s interpretation, first century Roman Centurions were admirable figures of authority who followed their orders without question—the prototypes for the kinds of police officers that CTI instructor Ray Nash, the sheriff of Dorchester County, South Carolina, wants to create in his state and elsewhere.
Nash has conducted “Police Dynamics” training for numerous U.S. and international police departments.
He's now resigned.
Bill Gothard's IBLP Sued for Prison Programs
Secular’ Character Training Institute is working to build evangelist Bill Gothard’s vision of a First-Century Kingdom of God—one city, one state, one school board, one police force and one mind at a time.
Gov. Bush encouraging religious groups to provide government services